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DR. JOHN DALE DUNN

CIVILIAN EMERGENCY MEDICINE FACULTY PHYSICIAN, CARL DARNALL ARMY MEDICAL CENTER, FT. HOOD, TX.

"THE MISUSE OF DIESEL SCIENCE BY THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD"
CALIFORNIA PETROLEUM CONFERENCE
HILTON SAN DIEGO RESORT & SPA, SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA, JUNE 23, 2009

I got involved in public health because I became the local public health authority.

We are gliding towards a centralized government that is going to turn us into a bunch of slaves. The science part has to do with the pretense of saying to the people — that's you and me — we have our experts chosen. We can parade them out for you. But you don't know enough to dispute what they're saying.

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You have every right as citizens to say maybe we'll have a little discussion about this. Because I am a taxpayer and I am not a slave. This is about citizenship under the Aristotelian model of what citizenship is about. It is not about citizen king philosophers telling us how to live.

You're interested in clean air and you want the environment to be clean. It is always a matter of degree for these folks and they are never going to stop. If the air was absolutely perfectly clean they wouldn't be happy. It's not about the environment. It's about the control of the people and the glory of being in charge.

Mary Nichols leads a technologically elite group of people who want to tell you how you should live.

Research is only as good as the people who do it. There are plenty of opportunities to cheat.

There is a reference manual published by the Federal Judicial Center. Lawyers and judges don't like science any more than scientists don't like lawyers and judges. On page 384 of that book, it says "The threshold for concluding that an agent was more likely than not the cause of an individual's disease is a relative risk greater than 2.0. Recall that a relative risk of 1.0 means that the agent has no effect on the incidence of disease. It equals all the background causes. After all, there are no controls in observational studies. Sometimes, all you know about the inviduals in the study is they were enrolled, they answered a few questions and then they died. When the relative risk reaches 2.0, the agent is responsible for an equal number of cases of disease as all other background causes. Most epidimologists aren't happy with a 2.0. They usually don't pay attention until it's 3.0 or more. There isn't a study in all the history that shows this kinds of risk. There isn't one study used by CARB that has a relative risk of 2.0 or greater. They were less than 1.1.

Agencies that need studies that say large numbers of people die pay millions of dollars to researchers who know who's paying them. It's a corrupt system. It's sick. Epidimilogists have sold their soul for funding. They forgot what their mommies and daddies told them.

The reason that CARB is getting by everybody is judges aren't paying attention to the rules and the lawyers aren't paying attention. All a lawyer would have to do is ask the judge to look at their own reference manual and turn to page 384. And then follow their own rules.

There is a legal rule that can be applied to these circumstances to slow these people down. I want you to have the confidence to know that the Federal judges have a book on their shelves that explains relative risk.

If we don't fix this, Texas is going to be suffering from what happens to California. The whole United States is going to become a government camp and run by people who tell [scientists] that 'I'm sorry but you're not part of the consensus.'

There are 1,000 moving van companies in California that are going to be impacted in a terrible way by these regs. We need to make sure that people understand this is not a game. This is serious.

The French Disease. It's a political disease. It's the way that France runs. They run with elitist bureaucrats telling everyone what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. There isn't much the French do well. They are good at making sure that they have enough people to tell everyone what to do. In California, we have the French disease. We have too many people whose job it is is to tell people what to do and how to do it [and they force their own personal tastes on you.] They fake it as science but the fact is they're basically little clipboard tyrants.

Lawyers and judges look at process.

A lot of this has to do with people realizing this government has become a gigantic burden. California is suffering. But you're just getting crushed by these ambitious bureaucrats.

It's like these Tea Parties. What else are you going to do other than exercise your rights as a citizen? Go in with the confidence that we are on the right side of science.

I'm wondering if the United States can survive given these ambitions of these collectivists.

We need to slow them down and turn them around. We don't want to leave them where they are because they'll start up again. We need to figure out how to stop this pattern of misconduct on behalf of government agencies.

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